Why it’s still the American century

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Good read as ever. Wanted to pick up on the 'Free Speech' stuff though. America shut down the 'Free Speech' we have in the UK to protect Bush. So its not quite 'Free Speech' at all is it. [just a thought]

Thank God I'm nat a Canadian with its speech codes and tribunals.

hey karlos -

however, i've called him every name in the book on my blog - and no one's shut me down yet - and i've been security-checked out - my brother works (indirectly) for the DoD - until that happens, i won't loose faith in America quite yet, even though i live in NZ now


hey Jack - thanks - if it wasn't 2am, i'd write more right now, but i'll come back and leave an actual comment

:)
I would like to tell the world what I want to do with that Man but I fear being sent to the Bay and being subjected to his favorite method of torture [lmao] A demo was organized recently to show just how much we detest that man but the U.S.A powers ordered streets to be closed down and the protests was banned. Police arrested everyone and so it's kind of hard to read all this land of freedom and free speech stuff that many USA citizens seem so proud of. Also, this wa r on terror is a joke. The American admin have ordered more terrorist activity than most nations worldwide. It's just absurd really. There are may great things about USA and many wonderful citizens I am sure. The Bush Admin though are a joke. [high 5 paikea]
ick - i didn't know that - about the demo - where did that happen? - arrrgghh

ugh - war - they should be calling it the Occupation for Oil - yep - all engineered by the imbecile and his minions

i'll just have to settle for my cyberspace lambasting of that-person-i-hesitate-to-even-call-a-man from NZ and hope that right doesn't get me in trouble anytime soon

my favorite a.k.a. for His Unworthiness...

Idiot-in-Chief
I posted about the demo stuff in the exposure group - link to post
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Well, put Jack --- it's enjoyable to read a thoughtful balanced essay rather than a polemic rant.
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Thank you Jack. You have shined a light on the goodness of my country that I love. I've been watching India too - They are rising, I also hope they fully attain freedoms that we enjoy and treasure here.

I was watching a great video earlier today and I sent it out to some fellow Americans. As I was listening to the words of our Declaration of Independence I found myself in tears. Tears of joy and tears of hope. Hoping we can sustain what many have fought for us to have, and by the great minds of our founders. I consider those great men blessed by God and fighters too, considering signing that document put their very lives at risk. Some even murdered because they signed.

John Adams - God Save The American States

I was just told by an Israeli that some in Israel fly the American Flag along with their flag on the 4th of July. He said "It's a day many - world wide celebrate."

Thanks again Jack for your encouragement.
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Karlos: yes and no. I agree what passes for free speech is certainly different from what it was 10 years ago. There have been more restrictions imposed that I am against (e.g. many Patriot Act provisions). Generally, though, the country is still fortunate to have many speak out—such as those commenting here, on both sides of the spectrum.
My personal view of the President is his misunderstanding or misreading of the technocratic movements (i.e. bad side of globalization), which seems to inform quite a lot of his foreign policy. However, I am among the minority when I say I believe the man is not stupid. I’ve heard him speak at the G8 (on radio)—no stuttering, correct pronunciation of nuclear, completely fluent—none of the folksy stuff. Remember he lost his run for Congress in 1978 because his Democratic opponent attacked him for being smart.
However, the underlying message remains. The US might not be the greatest country in some respects but it remains a very good country in most.
So thank you all for commenting—Americans and non-Americans alike: Karlos, Paikea, Steve.
Twana, I believe India is on its way. The poor are less poor—and it is institutionalization that also keeps it down. However, the changes technologically are creating new jobs there and while politics there are still very highly charged, I feel the likelihood of political assassinations is lesser than it was 25 years ago. Indians are moving forward and they do have a good common law basis that has allowed them to engage the First World effectively.
I hold hope for the US and that the words of the Declaration of Independence will continue to hold significance and be realized there. Happy Fourth to all of you in the US.

I agree with free speech and the defence of it. And yes, I have never tarnished individual Americans as most Americans I know are just like me - we all want the same things although we might express these things differently.

It is always Washington's policies that I strongly disagree with. I'm always warmed to know that there are plenty of Americans who can also see where I'm coming from. That's the sign of a great people, a great nation of fair-minded, respectful people.

The pursuit of freedom and allowing people to walk their own path in this lifetime is worth standing up for. It is just a pity that the deep kernel of truth in this pursuit has been hijacked in recent decades because of misguided ideologies and shady backroom deals involving some very dubious characters in positions of power.

I wish Americans a happy day today.

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Great comment, Ninja. And you are right: the American Dream is the same as the Australian Dream or the Palestinian Dream or any other. It is the chance to realize ourselves completely for the good of us all.
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Thanks, Timothy.
Jack, this is a very well thought out and articulated post. From the inside looking out, I am not so convinced America will survive its culture war and come out with its values intact. We literally have a party whose moral values are lost. They are not held to the same standard in the media or by the voter as conservatives, they have the majority of the main stream media and educational system misleading and propagating against conservatism. They are willing to say and do anything, including revisiting history, to gain the seats of power. They are willing to dishonor the structure of governance to forward their personal causes, courts essentially usurping the power of the legislature, legislature essentially usurping presidential authority, etc., Though our voters are willing to criticize the government, they aren't prepared to investigate the realities to know who is responsible for what. The media is capitalizing on this laziness to feed them propaganda on the 6 O'clock news hour for those who bother to watch it. The conservative is still in the majority, but is fast becoming the counter culture. To demonstrate this, watch Ca vote the marriage amendment out. I can only attribute this to the media influence. My siblings demonstrate what I'm talking about in that they are constantly amazed at the information I've gathered and try to keep them up on like the Dems prohibiting oil drilling anywhere in the US or off the shores of the US and have done this for the last 20 years. It is only 30% of our consumption that we are having to buy from international sources all of which are using those funds to buy up American business and property, undermine our efforts around the world and use our courts to challenge our rights. (Think Mark Steyn) I don't see Barak making it into office, but the Marxist qualities being heralded are gaining a foothold in American politics.

Hi Mr. Yan,

My gut tells me that America will indeed continue to be tested internally; culturally, we are at the crossroads as a unified nation. This may get a little long.....

Issues of freedom of speech, equal domestic gay rights, migrants, economics via the housing crisis to name just a few. See, these are the elements that could spilt the nation into a fractured United States of America... Economics and religion help control the party splits, partisan politics has become a dominate force in the media imagery.

So, the answer may rest on the next leader of this still great Americana. And, that could be Obama, and his VP selection. It will be the next Pres' mission to reign in control, set a standard for media, corporate and civic visions, as well as its effective execution.

Still, the fact is - that person will need to clean out the "secret closet", rebrand America as it once strived to be, a land of freedom, liberty and justice. You once used the term "Beacon" in the context to pre 9/11 America. And, we [were] a BEACON of change: digital, urban development, cultural advancement in film, music and the arts in general.

VALUES?

American values are not "bible belt morals" let us a not confuse those that are most outspoken, with the needs, and vision for an inclusive America. Critical mass/ pop culture is diverse, strong and embraces change quickly. They are just waiting on the green light to group and form movements toward change. We like new trends, and change, even at a cost. That is the flex nature of pop; young 20somethings will carry the ball and will hit the stride in the next election term. We are simply in a correction phase.

9/11 was a huge cultural challenge; because it made America question who was to be called "American." Many older Americans saw the reflection of Japan, America pre WW2.

Moreover, America's ability to sustain culture, will be based on its creative assets, and the freedoms that are aligned with expression. The web will be one major factor, as MSM, continues to disengage in favor of short term shareholder profits.

Yes, the sleeping giant will wake, and be kind: more human; [offering] ---- but not forcing a better brand of global justice. One of the first test will be if America can speak peace in Iraq, Iran, Gaza, and here at home in places such as, South Central Los Angeles. Can we redefine our American policy on education and health care?

To be a leader again, we might take chances, reduce war budgets and build value in the unified America, globally.

And, those values are not "June and Ward Cleaver", in that era Dear June was able to speak for the masses of family values. Funny, but- I don't recall seeing any Latin or Asian-Americans on that show. So, the projected image of values must be more inclusive then "....back in the day values...."

Google, Myspace, Facebook, twitter, and blogs... Allows for the exchange of ideals, our daily life is seen in the reflection of digital worldview. There is still a lot to learn, information can't be harnessed.

CountryWide.. Authur Anderson... Now gone... Bear Sterns was an old client... now they are also gone. American Airlines, Delta, and the whole auto industry is being rebuilt; change provides a window for creative innovation. And, I'm excited!

Simply
bill

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Judge Bob and Bill, thank you. In both your well thought-out responses there seem to be two views. I am hoping long-term there is a chance for people to remember true US ideals.
Judge Bob, I agree with you on a lot of what you wrote. I remember Zell Miller at the last Republican conference during a presidential election year talking about what he understood liberal to mean. Whatever is being reflected by some of the extremist parts of the politics there is no longer liberal. The fashionable people call it postmodernism—the critiquing of the logical, rationalized system—but it is a code word for destruction.
Almost as a reaction to that, there are elements of conservatism that have gone rightward—but most Americans (and on this Sen. Clinton was right, even if she was not right on a lot of things) tend toward the centre.
I hold out some hope through individuals as the MSM loses influence and people go toward the blogosphere and the internet in general. You are right that the general population is lazy and soundbites work to fool them—but there may be enough opinion leaders like your good self prepared to point out the folly of the media and their deceptions.
Bill: the next president, whomever it is, will have to think about how the US is branded. We have had eight years of a president who holds a technocratic world-view; unsurprising considering his educational background and his MBA. The nation brand is one thing the US has not looked at because no one has been accountable to it. But it must be communicated internally and externally at the same time.
Your view is future-oriented and I like that. The new United States is indeed more of a melting pot than what 1950s television would say, or what the Bible belt believes. I like your beacon idea because many of us outside the US still habitually look to your country for ideals—but the MSM prefers to propagate nonsense about gang violence and selfishness (reality TV). (For example, I have seen reports about Polynesian youths dressing up in American-gangster colours, when they have one of the richest cultures on earth that they shun.)
The 20-something crowd that will pick up the baton, as it always does and becomes so very influential, must carve out that new inclusiveness. The environmental movement is one where the US has taken a lead, but on the flip side it has also attracted some extreme leftists who searched for a new home after the collapse of the USSR.
The common thread that Americans surely must share is one of ethics and morality, to put trust back where mistrust now resides. On the coasts, especially in places like New York, I sense mistrust almost as the first position of business relationships—reducing them down to mere capitalism and not humanism. Americans express a dislike for lawyers yet are content to make them rich. The simple thing is a mindshift: that if we expect trust, we must express trust.
That is where change needs to take place first, and perhaps trust can be a uniter—changing things internally and then externally. It was not that long ago that American corporations wanting to globalize their operations reached out, connected with another culture, and respected that relationship.
The 20-somethings may well be more au fait with the use of dialogue and individuality through the ’net and the social networks.
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Mr. Yan, is America still the global leader, is that the question?

Funny you should write about the fall of the USSR... I feel the world is still caught in a trap of fear that stems from the Cold War and post 9/11.

The Berlin Wall has fallen!

The older generations recall the extremes from the late 50s-mid 80s --- communist North Korea, Africa, South East Asia, Central America, Russia, Cuba stood against the American values of liberty. America, became a beacon for humanity. Well, that's my abstract take.

Now, the younger folks around the globe only know America as the economic center of media, war, and colonizing. That is an important part of the "American Value" equation... who is America?

Extreme liberals?

Jack, do you mean anarchist?

Because that is another large part of the migrant story. They bring a destabilizing element to America's multicultural table. I've seen and documented that faction of Migrant-America. That is not about free speech, or a honest days work. Anarchist are lawless; anti-law defines their national posture. America is not a developing 3rd world nation... in search of some extremist's revolution!

As with the street gangs of New Zealand, such as: Mongrel Mob in Porirua, which are native Maori, if I'm correct...?

U.S. Street gangs have been allowed to globally export their brand of terror, with the help of MSM; that is one effect of race-based media presentations. The notion of native Maori youth needing to reflect Urban America's crime is a bit of a mystery to me. Crips, bloods, MS 13, LA Mara, Mexican Mafia are all native to America's shores. And, their affect has, and could indeed continue to dismantle "America"... We are speaking about small army sized gangs with combined numbers in the 100s of thousands. They have business models that embrace the selling of drugs, trafficking of humans and guns.

I had to ask a gang based recording artist about NZ, he bragged that there are New Zealand Bloods, of sorts... I had no idea that would be attractive to youth in your country. Amazing!

The Anarchists and gangs in my humble opinion are as bad as Al Qaeda, and maybe in the "criminal bed" with them on some level. So the question is can America stop its own internal brand of terrorist networks?

What is the bottom line economic cost of gangs to our global cultural society?
Can we clean the streets and make them safe?

Can we trust Americans to practice [safe] free speech... can that be done with the diversity of cultures here in the United States of America?

Can America still be the global leader with such a divided culture?

I'm not sure that is a future ideal, as much as a current need today.

Simply
bill:

Darn it, I typed out a huge reply and lost it.

I now type responses out in word after the last time I lost an encyclopedia length response. Great Post!

These comments are an interesting read. Thanks Jack - Mr. Yan! I like that. When I think of you, I think of kindness and respect, so Mr. Yan fits perfectly.
I guess what I wanted to say to Bill was that reciprocity is the one value that unites all cultures and should be pushed, but the way I arrived at it was pretty good (if I say so without any modesty).
Thanks Twana! I really like how we have heard from conservatives and liberals and we have some common ground here—and it’s thanks to all of you who kept things so civilized.
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Yes... Mr. Yan,

Contextually -- Reciprocity then becomes the mutual exchange of best business practices/economics and social ideals: Cultural Stewardship.

Reciprocity is foundational to the advancement of humanity. Sadly, today we are missing the impact of that "Golden Rule" based construct. When JudgeBob, and many other visitors remark about "Values" I do think they [may] mean caring about the human next door.

America has fallen on tough economic times because our government and global corporations did not care about workers, consumers, or public opinion.

Reciprocity implies a great need for honesty, respect and loyalty; regardless of economic gains, far beyond branding.

Simply
Bill

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Very well said, Bill.

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