Hillary Clinton calls Russian president-elect ‘Whatever’

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Adding a whatever is hugely disrespectful yet seems symptomatic of the American approach to Russia. I hate that. Everyone makes mistakes, but to me if she's already dismissing him with a "or whatever" then what's she going to be like in office? She'd pick up the hotline at 3am and get his name wrong.

I notice the west condemned the elections, which were admittedly far from ideal, but in writing off what was at the end of the day a democratic vote (no matter how skewed the media was to help Medvedev) they reinforce all of the negative opinions and the people who think nothing has changed in Russia. At least when they replaced the President they got a chance to vote, more than we did when Gordon Brown took office. Plus, if we look at the figures turnout was higher than we get here in the UK, and while people say it was fixed it wasn't fixed in the sense of fraud - essentially people could go to the polls and vote for whoever they want. The thing is, even without the media bias and the suppression of some opposition figures, Medvedev would have probably won anyway, the west can't seem to accept that Putin and his party have the support of the masses, yet all the polls show his approval rating as very high. It was by no means ideal, but I do think we should view it as what it was, a democratic election for arguably the second most powerful job in the world.

None of our democracies are truly democratic anyway - see Gore winning the popular vote, The Tories winning more English votes but less English seats, etc. I'm not surprised the Russians think the USA and UK hates them - by and large they seem to be correct.

(Sorry for the rant. I like Russia, and think she's constantly the victim of propoganda - the cold war's meant to be over, but it's still open season on Russia.)
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In addition to what you wrote, Pete, when GDP under Putin has increased sevenfold, there is a very good reason for Russians to vote in Medvedev. The effective limits on opposition advertising did make for a skewed election, but I agree that Medvedev would have won in any case. It is not only the amount poured in to the campaign; Единая Россия, the United Russia party, comprises skilled campaigners.
About the only American politician who seems to get the Russians is Condi Rice—mostly because the woman has been able to converse with President Putin in his own language.
I didn't know that about Condi, but that's very positive. I think Russia, regardless of what America does or doesn't do will only get more powerful, they're enjoying the economic progress they should have had in the twenties but were robbed of by Communist Economics and the Civil War.
That is likely to come to pass, Pete, though its problem remains its huge rich–poor gap that was made worse in the first few years after the USSR’s collapse. If Russia can deal to that under Medvedev, then there should be no reason the growth will reverse.
To mispronounce a name- annoying, but understandable under pressure. To add a "whatever" is so tactless it speaks volumes. Disgraceful.
I also think the pressure of the presidency would be far greater than a debate hosted by Tim Russert against two men (Sens. McCain and Obama) whom she has known for many years. If Sen. Clinton displays this sort of tactlessness now, how will she fare if she gets into office? I have to add that to the whole “Gandhi pumps gas in St Louis” attitude she has displayed over the last few years.
This is a time for our presential candidates to show a more global attitude. 'Whatever' is the sort of provinciality the "ugly American" is known for and I hate it because it gives a bad impression of every American. Especially if it comes out of the mouth of one of our candidates for president.
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I fully agree, Patricia. I hope the next president will be far more globally minded. This affects every sector of society, too, and if we tackle global problems together, we might get them solved. The consequences reach further than the 50 states.

Who is more corrupt? Clinton or Medvedev?

Our party has been dissed by Hillary for her whole time in Washington. I do hope she isn't the one who will be in the White House. She is very disrespectful even though she is now trying to change that. That change needs to be done in private not on a country or the world.
Based on the fact I know less about Medvedev’s record as Putin’s shadow, my money is on Clinton. Man, that was bad phrasing.
At best, H. I., I would call her a flip-flopper, and that is being mighty generous.

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